>> well, i think the romney campaign is correct to focus on the economy. because if brian moran and the other representatives of the obama campaign think that there is a record of success here, that people are positive about the economy, they are mightily out of touch with the average american, and certainly the average virginian. people are concerned about the unemployment rate. they're concerned about their own jobs or their spouse's jobs or underemployment. people are really worried about that. and on top of this is up to 200,000 defense-related jobs that will be lost in virginia if sequestration, president obama's plan to lay off defense workers takes hold. we're very worried about that. >> that's not just president obama's plan to lay -- that was a plan that was reached by both parties. so let's be fair and let's be honest. >> well, and it was -- >> go ahead, brian. >> it was a result of the republicans -- it was a result of the republicans holding the debt ceiling hostage. and that's why they entered this plan. this was a scheme developed by eric can